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	<description>Journalist and writer Gavin Atkin's weblog about boats, boatbuilding and restoration</description>
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		<title>Comment on Complete free plans package for the intheboatshed.net flat-bottomed 15ft 6in skiff by Gavin Atkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:26:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Haven&#039;t worked up the sailing version yet. 

Hopefully I don&#039;t have to say how useful the notes and the drawings are - otherwise the various components could confuse a person. The knees and breast hook will add to the rigidity, of course.

Gav</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Haven&#8217;t worked up the sailing version yet. </p>
<p>Hopefully I don&#8217;t have to say how useful the notes and the drawings are &#8211; otherwise the various components could confuse a person. The knees and breast hook will add to the rigidity, of course.</p>
<p>Gav</p>
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		<title>Comment on Claude Worth&#8217;s first voyages by Chris Partridge</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris Partridge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 10:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;...with a younger brother and sister as ballast....&quot;
Did their mother know? Perhaps we are too safety-conscious these days, but I think even Arthur &#039;if not duffers won&#039;t drown&#039; Ransome might have drawn the line at a child with no sailing experience taking the entire family sailing in a boat he had built himself from odd bits of wood and cloth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;with a younger brother and sister as ballast&#8230;.&#8221;<br />
Did their mother know? Perhaps we are too safety-conscious these days, but I think even Arthur &#8216;if not duffers won&#8217;t drown&#8217; Ransome might have drawn the line at a child with no sailing experience taking the entire family sailing in a boat he had built himself from odd bits of wood and cloth.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Complete free plans package for the intheboatshed.net flat-bottomed 15ft 6in skiff by Paul</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 03:53:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, Gavin,

I, too, made a cerealbox model.  Turned out OK.  I was very interested to see how it became more rigid as I finally managed to get the parts fitted. Too, I need to add the knees and the breast hook.  (I was assembling without looking at your drawings!)

I live on a river in the southern US, and have been looking for an inexpensive - relatively - way to get on the river.  I hope to build a Julie skiff in the next few months.  One question: you mentioned a sailing verion of the skiff.  Do you have such a plan completed?  I have considered building a small sailing craft, something simple to sail - for a novice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, Gavin,</p>
<p>I, too, made a cerealbox model.  Turned out OK.  I was very interested to see how it became more rigid as I finally managed to get the parts fitted. Too, I need to add the knees and the breast hook.  (I was assembling without looking at your drawings!)</p>
<p>I live on a river in the southern US, and have been looking for an inexpensive &#8211; relatively &#8211; way to get on the river.  I hope to build a Julie skiff in the next few months.  One question: you mentioned a sailing verion of the skiff.  Do you have such a plan completed?  I have considered building a small sailing craft, something simple to sail &#8211; for a novice.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Complete free plans package for the intheboatshed.net flat-bottomed 15ft 6in skiff by Gavin Atkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 16:51:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brandon -

It&#039;s good to hear from you.

How much epoxy you use depends very much on how much you like to use.

Here in the UK epoxy is terribly expensive, and we make our fillets about as wide as a table-spoon will form, use fairly light-glass on the bottoms of light boats and apply it fairly thinly everywhere else. On that basis, I guess I might use four-five litres. In other places epoxy is much cheaper, and in my observation some people tend to use it more generously, which of course produces a heavier if stronger boat. Others, however, may be looking for a lighter-weight boat, and so use less.

I&#039;m glad you enjoyed making the models. You couldn&#039;t let me have some photos of them I could put on the site could you please?

I like to encourage model making, partly because it&#039;s fun, partly because it encourages confidence and partly because it helps people to see how the boats go together.

Gav</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brandon -</p>
<p>It&#8217;s good to hear from you.</p>
<p>How much epoxy you use depends very much on how much you like to use.</p>
<p>Here in the UK epoxy is terribly expensive, and we make our fillets about as wide as a table-spoon will form, use fairly light-glass on the bottoms of light boats and apply it fairly thinly everywhere else. On that basis, I guess I might use four-five litres. In other places epoxy is much cheaper, and in my observation some people tend to use it more generously, which of course produces a heavier if stronger boat. Others, however, may be looking for a lighter-weight boat, and so use less.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad you enjoyed making the models. You couldn&#8217;t let me have some photos of them I could put on the site could you please?</p>
<p>I like to encourage model making, partly because it&#8217;s fun, partly because it encourages confidence and partly because it helps people to see how the boats go together.</p>
<p>Gav</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rowing in surf, with windows? by Gavin Atkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 19:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jim Mason later sent me some more links, which are too good to miss.

www.lifeguardart.com depicts the men and women of the South Jersey beach patrols using the version of the Jersey beach skiff that originated in Atlantic City and environs.  It is round-bilged and fuller-bodied than the flat-bottomed Seabright skiffs used up on the northern beaches.  It is also heavier by 50 lbs. and not self-bailing.  

Also check out the www.lifeguardraces.com galleries at http://web.sendtoprint.net/proofbook/galleries.asp?CouponID=Lifeguard

Thanks Jim! Some of the Lifeguardart images are superb - this seems to be an amazingly photogenic sport.

Gav</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jim Mason later sent me some more links, which are too good to miss.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.lifeguardart.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifeguardart.com</a> depicts the men and women of the South Jersey beach patrols using the version of the Jersey beach skiff that originated in Atlantic City and environs.  It is round-bilged and fuller-bodied than the flat-bottomed Seabright skiffs used up on the northern beaches.  It is also heavier by 50 lbs. and not self-bailing.  </p>
<p>Also check out the <a href="http://www.lifeguardraces.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.lifeguardraces.com</a> galleries at <a href="http://web.sendtoprint.net/proofbook/galleries.asp?CouponID=Lifeguard" rel="nofollow">http://web.sendtoprint.net/proofbook/galleries.asp?CouponID=Lifeguard</a></p>
<p>Thanks Jim! Some of the Lifeguardart images are superb &#8211; this seems to be an amazingly photogenic sport.</p>
<p>Gav</p>
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		<title>Comment on Model-making progress and drawings of Paul Connor&#8217;s Practical Boatbuilding skiff project by Gavin Atkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 06:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugene -

I agree with Paul!

Gav</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugene -</p>
<p>I agree with Paul!</p>
<p>Gav</p>
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		<title>Comment on Model-making progress and drawings of Paul Connor&#8217;s Practical Boatbuilding skiff project by Paul Connor</title>
		<link>http://intheboatshed.net/2009/06/10/model-making-progress-and-drawings-of-paul-connors-practical-boatbuilding-skiff-project/comment-page-1/#comment-53945</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul Connor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Jun 2009 00:52:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eugene,

I think virtually any of the free flat-bottom skiff plans you might come across on the internet might easily be adapted to aircraft plywood model construction.  If I may ask, what is the model for?  Some info would help figure out what exactly would fit the bill, but Mr. Atkin&#039;s free Julie Skiff built at 1/8 scale would come in at just under two feet and he has model sheets (not sure exactly what scale) here:
http://intheboatshed.net/2008/10/15/intheboatshednet-skiff-now-we-make-a-model/
If that&#039;s doesn&#039;t seem quite right, you can design your own with the Carlson Chine Hull Designer, found here:
http://www.carlsondesign.com/#Fun_Shareware
Whatever you choose, just print out sheets and tape them to the model plywood (or balsa wood) and cut them out.  Be careful when printing or the scale might not come out as you want - not that it should matter much, since as long as the sheets are all the same scale everything should go together without much trouble regardless of what the scale actually is.

Good luck on your model, and I hope you keep us informed.

Regards,
Paul Connor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eugene,</p>
<p>I think virtually any of the free flat-bottom skiff plans you might come across on the internet might easily be adapted to aircraft plywood model construction.  If I may ask, what is the model for?  Some info would help figure out what exactly would fit the bill, but Mr. Atkin&#8217;s free Julie Skiff built at 1/8 scale would come in at just under two feet and he has model sheets (not sure exactly what scale) here:<br />
<a href="http://intheboatshed.net/2008/10/15/intheboatshednet-skiff-now-we-make-a-model/" rel="nofollow">http://intheboatshed.net/2008/10/15/intheboatshednet-skiff-now-we-make-a-model/</a><br />
If that&#8217;s doesn&#8217;t seem quite right, you can design your own with the Carlson Chine Hull Designer, found here:<br />
<a href="http://www.carlsondesign.com/#Fun_Shareware" rel="nofollow">http://www.carlsondesign.com/#Fun_Shareware</a><br />
Whatever you choose, just print out sheets and tape them to the model plywood (or balsa wood) and cut them out.  Be careful when printing or the scale might not come out as you want &#8211; not that it should matter much, since as long as the sheets are all the same scale everything should go together without much trouble regardless of what the scale actually is.</p>
<p>Good luck on your model, and I hope you keep us informed.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Paul Connor</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rowing in surf, with windows? by Jim Mason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim Mason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 17:06:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gavin, the only rocks they are normally rowed amongst are those contained in made-made structures such as jetties and groynes (not sure if these are equivalent terms in American and British English!).  The photo above was taken of a crew rowing between the jetties of the Shark River Inlet at Belmar, NJ (copy and paste 40 11&#039; 14&quot; N, 74 00&#039; 32&quot; W into the &quot;fly to&quot; function on Google Earth)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gavin, the only rocks they are normally rowed amongst are those contained in made-made structures such as jetties and groynes (not sure if these are equivalent terms in American and British English!).  The photo above was taken of a crew rowing between the jetties of the Shark River Inlet at Belmar, NJ (copy and paste 40 11&#8242; 14&#8243; N, 74 00&#8242; 32&#8243; W into the &#8220;fly to&#8221; function on Google Earth)</p>
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		<title>Comment on International Dragon Bluebottle at the NMM Falmouth by Gavin Atkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 16:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Falmouth Marine School boatbuilding programme manager Dave Martin has written to question the NMMC&#039;s information that Bluebottle was presented to the Duke of Edinburgh by the Island Sailing Club of Cowes, Isle of Wight. I&#039;ve no views on the matter, but can anyone shed light on the issue?

Here&#039;s his email to intheboatshed.net:

&lt;em&gt;Hi

I read your info on Bluebottle and I was under the impression that she was a gift from Royal Naval College Dartmouth.

Incidentally my grandfather Freddy Martin was invited to skipper her on his retirement but declined the invitation.

Regards

Dave Martin
Boatbuilding Programme Manager
Falmouth Marine School&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Falmouth Marine School boatbuilding programme manager Dave Martin has written to question the NMMC&#8217;s information that Bluebottle was presented to the Duke of Edinburgh by the Island Sailing Club of Cowes, Isle of Wight. I&#8217;ve no views on the matter, but can anyone shed light on the issue?</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s his email to intheboatshed.net:</p>
<p><em>Hi</p>
<p>I read your info on Bluebottle and I was under the impression that she was a gift from Royal Naval College Dartmouth.</p>
<p>Incidentally my grandfather Freddy Martin was invited to skipper her on his retirement but declined the invitation.</p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Dave Martin<br />
Boatbuilding Programme Manager<br />
Falmouth Marine School</em></p>
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		<title>Comment on Ocean Pearl &#8211; zulu, fifie or baldie? Scots fishing boat expert Jay Cresswell explains by mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>interesting reading, hadn&#039;t looked in here for a year or so, nice to some new comments.  For what its worth... the above boat &#039;poppy&#039;, actually its &#039;pansy&#039; but near enough I guess!  I Bought her last year and in the throes of gutting here and refitting, fifie/baldie/zulu...    who knows!

46&#039; LOA, macduff 1937 and in reasonably fine fettle below the water line, one curiosity I&#039;ve never satisfied is the arrangement aft of the prop, seen a few pics of other fifie/zulus in this area, and none have anything like what we have, steelwork running between prop and rudder, not 100% certain wether it should be there or not, would be interesting to hear others comments

http://bf494.co.uk/media/users/mark/SNV10161.JPG</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>interesting reading, hadn&#8217;t looked in here for a year or so, nice to some new comments.  For what its worth&#8230; the above boat &#8216;poppy&#8217;, actually its &#8216;pansy&#8217; but near enough I guess!  I Bought her last year and in the throes of gutting here and refitting, fifie/baldie/zulu&#8230;    who knows!</p>
<p>46&#8242; LOA, macduff 1937 and in reasonably fine fettle below the water line, one curiosity I&#8217;ve never satisfied is the arrangement aft of the prop, seen a few pics of other fifie/zulus in this area, and none have anything like what we have, steelwork running between prop and rudder, not 100% certain wether it should be there or not, would be interesting to hear others comments</p>
<p><a href="http://bf494.co.uk/media/users/mark/SNV10161.JPG" rel="nofollow">http://bf494.co.uk/media/users/mark/SNV10161.JPG</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Rowing in surf, with windows? by Gavin Atkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:49:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And thanks everyone for your informative comments! In my foolishness I really did think they might be windows used to judge the boat&#039;s trim!

Gav</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And thanks everyone for your informative comments! In my foolishness I really did think they might be windows used to judge the boat&#8217;s trim!</p>
<p>Gav</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rowing in surf, with windows? by Gavin Atkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well I&#039;m amazed. I&#039;m astonished at these crazy people rowing in big waves among rocks - I vaguely know about Jersey surf boats but didn&#039;t know they had become self-baling and imagined they were only used off sandy beaches. 

There are more pics in the galleries here: http://www.jsrowing.org/32.html

I&#039;ll also take another look at my copy of Gardner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well I&#8217;m amazed. I&#8217;m astonished at these crazy people rowing in big waves among rocks &#8211; I vaguely know about Jersey surf boats but didn&#8217;t know they had become self-baling and imagined they were only used off sandy beaches. </p>
<p>There are more pics in the galleries here: <a href="http://www.jsrowing.org/32.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.jsrowing.org/32.html</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ll also take another look at my copy of Gardner!</p>
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		<dc:creator>Jaap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:28:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. the article is dated Feb 2007</description>
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		<title>Comment on Rowing in surf, with windows? by Jaap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jun 2009 06:27:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is amazing to see you much one can learn on a subject within about 12 hours - including a good night sleep - from like-minded people on the Net and good ol&#039; books.
I stated my little struggle on my Facebook status too and within hours a friend came up with a link to a great article in the New York Times, dated February 2009: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B03E3D8153FF937A35751C0A9619C8B63
These boats appear to be based on the Jersey Skiff / Sea Bright Skiff. So I got into my copy of John Gardner&#039;s &quot;Building Classis Small Craft&quot; which has two chapters devoted to the Sea Bright Skiff.
These particular type has been developed by Bob Asay in the Monmouth County chapter of the US Lifeguard Ass. They are now trying to harmonise and established the Jersey Shore Rowing Association. (http://www.jsrowing.org/)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is amazing to see you much one can learn on a subject within about 12 hours &#8211; including a good night sleep &#8211; from like-minded people on the Net and good ol&#8217; books.<br />
I stated my little struggle on my Facebook status too and within hours a friend came up with a link to a great article in the New York Times, dated February 2009: <a href="http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B03E3D8153FF937A35751C0A9619C8B63" rel="nofollow">http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B03E3D8153FF937A35751C0A9619C8B63</a><br />
These boats appear to be based on the Jersey Skiff / Sea Bright Skiff. So I got into my copy of John Gardner&#8217;s &#8220;Building Classis Small Craft&#8221; which has two chapters devoted to the Sea Bright Skiff.<br />
These particular type has been developed by Bob Asay in the Monmouth County chapter of the US Lifeguard Ass. They are now trying to harmonise and established the Jersey Shore Rowing Association. (<a href="http://www.jsrowing.org/)" rel="nofollow">http://www.jsrowing.org/)</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Rowing in surf, with windows? by Wade Tarzia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wade Tarzia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s a commericial surf boat. The flotation volume is probably in the floor (picture about 4 to 6 inches of it), and the transom is open so it can take a breaking wave, dump the water in seconds, and continue on. A good sporting surf-rower, also used by lifeguards sometimes. It looks a little bluff-bowed to be based on a dory, though I have seen fiberglass commercial dories built the same way used at a beach lifeguard station.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a commericial surf boat. The flotation volume is probably in the floor (picture about 4 to 6 inches of it), and the transom is open so it can take a breaking wave, dump the water in seconds, and continue on. A good sporting surf-rower, also used by lifeguards sometimes. It looks a little bluff-bowed to be based on a dory, though I have seen fiberglass commercial dories built the same way used at a beach lifeguard station.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rowing in surf, with windows? by Jaap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear all,

I had not only send my question to Gavin, I had also put it up on the Yahoo &quot;roughstuffrowing&quot; group, where Walt responded in just over an hour:

&quot;These boats are modified Jersey Skiffs. They are built by Bob Asay and ex-Jersey lifeguard. They are self bailing bats designed to row through surf and allow the wash to leave the boat. Specifically they are built for use in lifeguard tournaments, have had the original box keel of the Jersey skiff replaced by a flat bottom. When I was rowing with Bob Asay in the last few years while he was building my boat he described them as a surfboard with free board. They are quite fun and there is a huge following of folks on the east coast of the U.S. who use them for racing and fitness. You can see more about these boats at the Jersey Shore Rowing Association web site.
By the way, Bob has only built about 120 of these boats but is still producing them in Fort Pierce, Florida at about 7 to 10 a years depending on orders. They are custom built by his hand and last I heard they were about $10,600 a piece. However, Dave Healy at the Jersey Shore Rowing Association has a near new AND PRATICALLY UNUSED one posted for sale on that web site for about $7,500 for the boat only. Shipping may be difficult if you are in the Netherlands but can be done I am sure.&quot;
(http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Roughstuffrowing/messages/245?threaded=1&amp;m=e&amp;var=1&amp;tidx=1)

The Jersey Shore Rowing Association has some more summer like images on their website also, like: http://www.jsrowing.org/mediac/400_0/media/2$20APP$208-9-07$20HEALY$20TOWNS.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear all,</p>
<p>I had not only send my question to Gavin, I had also put it up on the Yahoo &#8220;roughstuffrowing&#8221; group, where Walt responded in just over an hour:</p>
<p>&#8220;These boats are modified Jersey Skiffs. They are built by Bob Asay and ex-Jersey lifeguard. They are self bailing bats designed to row through surf and allow the wash to leave the boat. Specifically they are built for use in lifeguard tournaments, have had the original box keel of the Jersey skiff replaced by a flat bottom. When I was rowing with Bob Asay in the last few years while he was building my boat he described them as a surfboard with free board. They are quite fun and there is a huge following of folks on the east coast of the U.S. who use them for racing and fitness. You can see more about these boats at the Jersey Shore Rowing Association web site.<br />
By the way, Bob has only built about 120 of these boats but is still producing them in Fort Pierce, Florida at about 7 to 10 a years depending on orders. They are custom built by his hand and last I heard they were about $10,600 a piece. However, Dave Healy at the Jersey Shore Rowing Association has a near new AND PRATICALLY UNUSED one posted for sale on that web site for about $7,500 for the boat only. Shipping may be difficult if you are in the Netherlands but can be done I am sure.&#8221;<br />
(<a href="http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Roughstuffrowing/messages/245?threaded=1&amp;m=e&amp;var=1&amp;tidx=1" rel="nofollow">http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/Roughstuffrowing/messages/245?threaded=1&amp;m=e&amp;var=1&amp;tidx=1</a>)</p>
<p>The Jersey Shore Rowing Association has some more summer like images on their website also, like: <a href="http://www.jsrowing.org/mediac/400_0/media/2$20APP$208-9-07$20HEALY$20TOWNS.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://www.jsrowing.org/mediac/400_0/media/2$20APP$208-9-07$20HEALY$20TOWNS.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Rowing in surf, with windows? by Matthew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Matthew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 20:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s probably self bailing.  The pictures seem to show that the boat has a solid floor, which presumably contains flotation.  The holes in the sides and stern allow the water to drain out when the boat is swamped.  That&#039;s my guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probably self bailing.  The pictures seem to show that the boat has a solid floor, which presumably contains flotation.  The holes in the sides and stern allow the water to drain out when the boat is swamped.  That&#8217;s my guess.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Rowing in surf, with windows? by Jaap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jaap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jun 2009 19:05:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess they aren&#039;t windows, those are holes. This is one serious self-bailing boat I guess, which will allow a wave to roll right through. I would also guess it has floatation underneath the floor board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess they aren&#8217;t windows, those are holes. This is one serious self-bailing boat I guess, which will allow a wave to roll right through. I would also guess it has floatation underneath the floor board.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Edwin Schoettle on catboats, Gavin Atkin on what&#8217;s wrong with yachts by Pat</title>
		<link>http://intheboatshed.net/2009/06/19/edwin-schoettle-on-catboats-gavin-atkin-on-whats-wrong-with-yachties/comment-page-1/#comment-53493</link>
		<dc:creator>Pat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 16:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>True, the hassle and lack of crew factors keep boats in the dock, as well as the owners&#039; lack of knowledge and skill, difficulty of access, lack of maintenance ability, not knowing where to find support, feeling intimidated by the &quot;yachting establishment&quot;, being afraid of their boats or the mighty ocean, etc. And, yes, some boats are hard to sail well. 

But another factor is that some boats are more of a joy to sail than others.  There&#039;s no one perfect boat, true, but some boat builder compromises have given us boats that don&#039;t perform too well and some boat owners may have never ever had a perfect moment on the water or been on a sail that made them want to whoop and holler.

Pat
Desert Sea</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>True, the hassle and lack of crew factors keep boats in the dock, as well as the owners&#8217; lack of knowledge and skill, difficulty of access, lack of maintenance ability, not knowing where to find support, feeling intimidated by the &#8220;yachting establishment&#8221;, being afraid of their boats or the mighty ocean, etc. And, yes, some boats are hard to sail well. </p>
<p>But another factor is that some boats are more of a joy to sail than others.  There&#8217;s no one perfect boat, true, but some boat builder compromises have given us boats that don&#8217;t perform too well and some boat owners may have never ever had a perfect moment on the water or been on a sail that made them want to whoop and holler.</p>
<p>Pat<br />
Desert Sea</p>
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		<title>Comment on Model-making progress and drawings of Paul Connor&#8217;s Practical Boatbuilding skiff project by Eugene O'Brien</title>
		<link>http://intheboatshed.net/2009/06/10/model-making-progress-and-drawings-of-paul-connors-practical-boatbuilding-skiff-project/comment-page-1/#comment-53446</link>
		<dc:creator>Eugene O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 20:22:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Paul,
Not sure if you can help me or not. I need to build a wooden model boat about 2 foot long and about 6 inches wide (dimensions can vary). All i need are the most basic of basic plans. All this needs to do is float and be stable. The more stable the better. I know nothing about boats model or real. Would you have any idea where i could get very minimal and basic plans (preferably free).
Rgds,
Eugene O&#039;Brien.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Paul,<br />
Not sure if you can help me or not. I need to build a wooden model boat about 2 foot long and about 6 inches wide (dimensions can vary). All i need are the most basic of basic plans. All this needs to do is float and be stable. The more stable the better. I know nothing about boats model or real. Would you have any idea where i could get very minimal and basic plans (preferably free).<br />
Rgds,<br />
Eugene O&#8217;Brien.</p>
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		<title>Comment on London Whalers explain how to row by Maritime Monday 167</title>
		<link>http://intheboatshed.net/2009/06/18/london-whalers-explain-how-to-row/comment-page-1/#comment-53431</link>
		<dc:creator>Maritime Monday 167</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Jun 2009 13:58:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] intheboatshed.net has &#8220;London Whalers explain how to row&#8220;. [...]</description>
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		<title>Comment on HBBR heroes on their way to Beale Park by Gavin Atkin</title>
		<link>http://intheboatshed.net/2009/06/20/hbbr-heroes-on-their-way-to-beal-park/comment-page-1/#comment-53389</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jun 2009 15:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it&#039;s one of the Selway-Fisher canoes. See http://www.selway-fisher.com/

Gav</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it&#8217;s one of the Selway-Fisher canoes. See <a href="http://www.selway-fisher.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.selway-fisher.com/</a></p>
<p>Gav</p>
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		<title>Comment on HBBR heroes on their way to Beale Park by Bob Holtzman</title>
		<link>http://intheboatshed.net/2009/06/20/hbbr-heroes-on-their-way-to-beal-park/comment-page-1/#comment-53319</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Holtzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:50:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks like a great time with some nice craft. Any idea about the ID of the white sailing canoe (probably glued-lap) being single-paddled?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks like a great time with some nice craft. Any idea about the ID of the white sailing canoe (probably glued-lap) being single-paddled?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Edwin Schoettle on catboats, Gavin Atkin on what&#8217;s wrong with yachts by Bob Holtzman</title>
		<link>http://intheboatshed.net/2009/06/19/edwin-schoettle-on-catboats-gavin-atkin-on-whats-wrong-with-yachties/comment-page-1/#comment-53318</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Holtzman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:40:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gav,
IMO, the reason so many cruising boat sailors motor or motor-sail most of the time is because they don&#039;t really like sailing or don&#039;t know enough about it to trust themselves (or the wind). Too much brought up with engines to feel comfy going anywhere without them -- and sailing is so SLOW! Considering that most cruising sailboats are used maybe 3X/year, I think their owners like the idea of sailing more than the thing itself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gav,<br />
IMO, the reason so many cruising boat sailors motor or motor-sail most of the time is because they don&#8217;t really like sailing or don&#8217;t know enough about it to trust themselves (or the wind). Too much brought up with engines to feel comfy going anywhere without them &#8212; and sailing is so SLOW! Considering that most cruising sailboats are used maybe 3X/year, I think their owners like the idea of sailing more than the thing itself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Edwin Schoettle on catboats, Gavin Atkin on what&#8217;s wrong with yachts by Thomas Armstrong</title>
		<link>http://intheboatshed.net/2009/06/19/edwin-schoettle-on-catboats-gavin-atkin-on-whats-wrong-with-yachties/comment-page-1/#comment-53289</link>
		<dc:creator>Thomas Armstrong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 04:00:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice Gavin.

thomas</description>
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<p>thomas</p>
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		<title>Comment on Edwin Schoettle on catboats, Gavin Atkin on what&#8217;s wrong with yachts by tillerman</title>
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		<dc:creator>tillerman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Jun 2009 22:07:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an avid Laser sailor I&#039;ve never been much interested in sailing typical &quot;yachts&quot;, mainly for the reasons you discuss. But a &quot;big Laser with a heavy keel&quot; could almost tempt me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an avid Laser sailor I&#8217;ve never been much interested in sailing typical &#8220;yachts&#8221;, mainly for the reasons you discuss. But a &#8220;big Laser with a heavy keel&#8221; could almost tempt me.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thames double skiff for sale by Gavin Atkin</title>
		<link>http://intheboatshed.net/2009/06/12/thames-double-skiff-for-sale/comment-page-1/#comment-53174</link>
		<dc:creator>Gavin Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:33:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff means this &lt;em&gt;Venus&lt;/em&gt;: http://intheboatshed.net/2008/03/12/a-well-travelled-skiff/

I think she&#039;s a smaller boat than the one in the Beale photos, but a VERY close relation nevertheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff means this <em>Venus</em>: <a href="http://intheboatshed.net/2008/03/12/a-well-travelled-skiff/" rel="nofollow">http://intheboatshed.net/2008/03/12/a-well-travelled-skiff/</a></p>
<p>I think she&#8217;s a smaller boat than the one in the Beale photos, but a VERY close relation nevertheless.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thames double skiff for sale by jeff cole</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeff cole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Jun 2009 15:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A dead ringer for &#039;Venus&#039;  in her fitout, appearance and equipment. You&#039;ll find pics of her and the rather sad story amongst my pics here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A dead ringer for &#8216;Venus&#8217;  in her fitout, appearance and equipment. You&#8217;ll find pics of her and the rather sad story amongst my pics here.</p>
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		<title>Comment on A sad farewell to Philip C Bolger by Don Marquez</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don Marquez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 22:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gone but not forgotten.</description>
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		<title>Comment on What it&#8217;s really all about&#8230; by Gavin Atkin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gavin Atkin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 12:13:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Bob - I thought it may be but couldn&#039;t be sure. Again, I can send you a larger image.

I&#039;m very sorry to hear about the Duck. I hope it all gets moving again soon. I thought she looked well along the road when I saw her, but I know that these things are like ducks themselves - all serenity above the water line but furiously busy down below where you can&#039;t see what&#039;s going on.

Gav</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Bob &#8211; I thought it may be but couldn&#8217;t be sure. Again, I can send you a larger image.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m very sorry to hear about the Duck. I hope it all gets moving again soon. I thought she looked well along the road when I saw her, but I know that these things are like ducks themselves &#8211; all serenity above the water line but furiously busy down below where you can&#8217;t see what&#8217;s going on.</p>
<p>Gav</p>
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