Comments on: intheboatshed.net skiff – drawings and coordinates for stitch and glue http://intheboatshed.net/2008/10/20/intheboatshednet-skiff-drawings-of-stitch-and-glue-panels/ Journalist and writer Gavin Atkin's weblog about boats, boatbuilding and restoration Thu, 18 Mar 2010 18:15:04 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Benhttp://intheboatshed.net/2008/10/20/intheboatshednet-skiff-drawings-of-stitch-and-glue-panels/comment-page-1/#comment-18124 Ben Wed, 22 Oct 2008 21:30:23 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/?p=3936#comment-18124 I think that on the water there’s a lot to be said for keeping any water contained between bulkheads. The less it sloshes about the better and the more it accumulates in one or two spots the easier it is to bail. But storage on land is a different matter and water stagnating up against a frame will eventually find its way through a crack in the paint. Keeping the boat well covered or upside down are obvious and, on the face of it, simple solutions but satisfactory storage of OB is something I’ve yet to achieve….But one should always give priority to on the water considerations and there would be absolutely no point in compromising buoyancy for the sake of easy drainage on the land.BenPS. I also swear by a large sponge:) I think that on the water there’s a lot to be said for keeping any water contained between bulkheads. The less it sloshes about the better and the more it accumulates in one or two spots the easier it is to bail. But storage on land is a different matter and water stagnating up against a frame will eventually find its way through a crack in the paint. Keeping the boat well covered or upside down are obvious and, on the face of it, simple solutions but satisfactory storage of OB is something I’ve yet to achieve….

But one should always give priority to on the water considerations and there would be absolutely no point in compromising buoyancy for the sake of easy drainage on the land.

Ben

PS. I also swear by a large sponge:)

]]> By: Gavin Atkinhttp://intheboatshed.net/2008/10/20/intheboatshednet-skiff-drawings-of-stitch-and-glue-panels/comment-page-1/#comment-18103 Gavin Atkin Wed, 22 Oct 2008 12:27:58 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/?p=3936#comment-18103 Thanks for your kind words. I look forward very much to seeing photos of your model.Your idea about limber holes isn't a bad one - and easy to do if people wish to.I'm very half-and-half about limber holes like this in plywood boats, as it seems to me that bouyancy tanks and dry storage are both very useful if not life-saving, and that small pools of water at several frames are perhaps no worse than a single large one somewhere.One great benefit of having the limber holes central in the frames is that builders who decide to build lightly out of, say, 4mm ply can stiffen their bottoms with a central keelson running along the bottom of the boat. That could be a very good move if light weight is your thing. I'm not wildly keen on extreme light weight myself, but there are people out there who are very keen.So I tend to favour either drain plugs in pairs to promote air flow or large rotating hatches, and keeping home-built ply boats out of the rain where possible. Storing them upside down is good too!And out on the water, I find a nice big sponge made for cleaning cars is useful.Gav Thanks for your kind words. I look forward very much to seeing photos of your model.

Your idea about limber holes isn’t a bad one – and easy to do if people wish to.

I’m very half-and-half about limber holes like this in plywood boats, as it seems to me that bouyancy tanks and dry storage are both very useful if not life-saving, and that small pools of water at several frames are perhaps no worse than a single large one somewhere.

One great benefit of having the limber holes central in the frames is that builders who decide to build lightly out of, say, 4mm ply can stiffen their bottoms with a central keelson running along the bottom of the boat. That could be a very good move if light weight is your thing. I’m not wildly keen on extreme light weight myself, but there are people out there who are very keen.

So I tend to favour either drain plugs in pairs to promote air flow or large rotating hatches, and keeping home-built ply boats out of the rain where possible. Storing them upside down is good too!

And out on the water, I find a nice big sponge made for cleaning cars is useful.

Gav

]]> By: Benhttp://intheboatshed.net/2008/10/20/intheboatshednet-skiff-drawings-of-stitch-and-glue-panels/comment-page-1/#comment-18089 Ben Wed, 22 Oct 2008 06:42:18 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/?p=3936#comment-18089 Very nice Gav, an easy to build sweet roomy rower I imagine. One thing I might do, were I fortunate enough to build any boat that took my fancy, would be to cut the drainage arches in the bulkheads at the sides rather than in the centre. Boats never seem to be on a flat enough surface for all the water to run through a central hole. The other advantage is that you can achieve an uninterrupted taped seam along the length sole and side panel join. I think this is featured in Payson’s construction of Bolger’s Gipsy. Very minor points but drainage has been on my mind recently and this one of the things I think I should have done with OB.I hope to have a go at the model soon.Ben Very nice Gav, an easy to build sweet roomy rower I imagine. One thing I might do, were I fortunate enough to build any boat that took my fancy, would be to cut the drainage arches in the bulkheads at the sides rather than in the centre. Boats never seem to be on a flat enough surface for all the water to run through a central hole. The other advantage is that you can achieve an uninterrupted taped seam along the length sole and side panel join. I think this is featured in Payson’s construction of Bolger’s Gipsy. Very minor points but drainage has been on my mind recently and this one of the things I think I should have done with OB.

I hope to have a go at the model soon.

Ben

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