Comments on: A trip to Oare in June http://intheboatshed.net/2008/06/15/a-trip-to-oare-in-june/ Gavin Atkin's weblog about great boats, boatbuilding and restoration Wed, 07 Jan 2009 22:21:18 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Fred Brookes http://intheboatshed.net/2008/06/15/a-trip-to-oare-in-june/comment-page-1/#comment-18738 Fred Brookes Sat, 08 Nov 2008 11:46:38 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/?p=2799#comment-18738 Message for Bob Telford My wife and I are former owners of Idle Duck. We bought her from Brian Kelley when he finally gave up sailing single-handed (aged 85). We got to know him quite well and he was enormously generous to us. We kept Idle Duck on a mooring at Pin Mill for some years. We eventually sold her, very reluctantly, to a chap whose name I can't recall (a builder from Chingford?), who planned to go to the Caribbean. I heard the odd thing from him when he was having some work done by (can't remember name, gone now) a little floating boatyard up by the New Cut in Ipswich. Heard nothing for years. Very upset to see the photos of her languishing in a mudhole, but much uplifted to read of your restoration. I have drawings and various other things that might be of interest to you Yours Fred Brookes Message for Bob Telford
My wife and I are former owners of Idle Duck. We bought her from Brian Kelley when he finally gave up sailing single-handed (aged 85). We got to know him quite well and he was enormously generous to us. We kept Idle Duck on a mooring at Pin Mill for some years. We eventually sold her, very reluctantly, to a chap whose name I can’t recall (a builder from Chingford?), who planned to go to the Caribbean. I heard the odd thing from him when he was having some work done by (can’t remember name, gone now) a little floating boatyard up by the New Cut in Ipswich. Heard nothing for years. Very upset to see the photos of her languishing in a mudhole, but much uplifted to read of your restoration. I have drawings and various other things that might be of interest to you
Yours

Fred Brookes

]]> By: Bob Telford http://intheboatshed.net/2008/06/15/a-trip-to-oare-in-june/comment-page-1/#comment-12100 Bob Telford Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:17:51 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/?p=2799#comment-12100 Gavin, We used to have a problem, years ago, with the fishermen hogging the dockside as if it was their own, but the local youth pounded them with bricks, so they moved off onto moorings, and just leave their old dinghies to be interfered with. However, the kids do not interfere with manned boats; only if they are left for weeks unattended. Geoff Gransden's boatbuilders are there most of the time during the week, which is added security. Geoff, incidentally also owns the smack Thistle, kept at Gillingham. No my house is not the big wooden 'Boathouse'. My house is the last modern estate house the other side of the stream. Did you walk back to the pub along the footpath beside the 'Boathouse'. If so my house was on your right. Halstow Creek is artificially widened by the extraction of mud for the brick-making. It is a half-mile wide lagoon when the tide is up; great for kids to learn to sail in. Cheers Bob Gavin,
We used to have a problem, years ago, with the fishermen hogging the dockside as if it was their own, but the local youth pounded them with bricks, so they moved off onto moorings, and just leave their old dinghies to be interfered with.
However, the kids do not interfere with manned boats; only if they are left for weeks unattended. Geoff Gransden’s boatbuilders are there most of the time during the week, which is added security.
Geoff, incidentally also owns the smack Thistle, kept at Gillingham.
No my house is not the big wooden ‘Boathouse’. My house is the last modern estate house the other side of the stream. Did you walk back to the pub along the footpath beside the ‘Boathouse’. If so my house was on your right.
Halstow Creek is artificially widened by the extraction of mud for the brick-making. It is a half-mile wide lagoon when the tide is up; great for kids to learn to sail in.
Cheers
Bob

]]> By: Gavin Atkin http://intheboatshed.net/2008/06/15/a-trip-to-oare-in-june/comment-page-1/#comment-12099 Gavin Atkin Mon, 16 Jun 2008 09:14:39 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/?p=2799#comment-12099 Hi Jeff - 5 metres is about it. Horse Sand is hard and sandy, and has long been used for working on boat bottoms, but given the weather forecasts I saw I wouldn't have planned to do any work that day. It just turned out that at least some of the forecasts were wrong... I should add that the area is a legend for mud - you certainly don't have a monopoly on that stuff! Gav Hi Jeff - 5 metres is about it.

Horse Sand is hard and sandy, and has long been used for working on boat bottoms, but given the weather forecasts I saw I wouldn’t have planned to do any work that day. It just turned out that at least some of the forecasts were wrong…

I should add that the area is a legend for mud - you certainly don’t have a monopoly on that stuff!

Gav

]]> By: jeff cole http://intheboatshed.net/2008/06/15/a-trip-to-oare-in-june/comment-page-1/#comment-12098 jeff cole Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:04:40 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/?p=2799#comment-12098 G'day Gavin, what's the tide range there? Looks like some of the smaller creeks of our bay. We get 6 to 11 ft depending on the season. I note the fellow standing by his beached yacht, we'd be up to our waists in mud. Not as bad as in the past though, they used to loose cows if they got on the mud and it was recommended that you carry an inflated inner tube if you ventured out yourself. Lately though the shore crabs in their millions have mixed the sand and mud and in most off-beach tidal places it's only up to your knees. Permanent moorings are a valuable commodity on the bay, in some older areas a property title carries a mooring permit. The problem is where as most of the shoreline is quite exposed. G’day Gavin, what’s the tide range there? Looks like some of the smaller creeks of our bay. We get 6 to 11 ft depending on the season. I note the fellow standing by his beached yacht, we’d be up to our waists in mud. Not as bad as in the past though, they used to loose cows if they got on the mud and it was recommended that you carry an inflated inner tube if you ventured out yourself. Lately though the shore crabs in their millions have mixed the sand and mud and in most off-beach tidal places it’s only up to your knees.
Permanent moorings are a valuable commodity on the bay, in some older areas a property title carries a mooring permit. The problem is where as most of the shoreline is quite exposed.

]]> By: Gavin Atkin http://intheboatshed.net/2008/06/15/a-trip-to-oare-in-june/comment-page-1/#comment-12097 Gavin Atkin Mon, 16 Jun 2008 06:57:27 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/?p=2799#comment-12097 Not knowing any better we parked outside the pub and walked down to the quay through the churchyard. So I guess the turning circle is by the quay? If so, I'd guess you could be in the modern house with slightly ornate red eaves by the stream? We'll certainly come to Lower Halstow in Schottische. I particularly like the sheltered area of water, which seems to me to be very suitable for kids, and the peacefulness of the place. Timing will be all of course, given the mud situation! How do you plan to stop local people with yachts from tying up long term and preventing visitors from using the quay? It could so easily be misused in the way people take advantage of the disabled parking at supermarkets. Gav Not knowing any better we parked outside the pub and walked down to the quay through the churchyard. So I guess the turning circle is by the quay? If so, I’d guess you could be in the modern house with slightly ornate red eaves by the stream?

We’ll certainly come to Lower Halstow in Schottische. I particularly like the sheltered area of water, which seems to me to be very suitable for kids, and the peacefulness of the place. Timing will be all of course, given the mud situation!

How do you plan to stop local people with yachts from tying up long term and preventing visitors from using the quay? It could so easily be misused in the way people take advantage of the disabled parking at supermarkets.

Gav

]]> By: Bob Telford http://intheboatshed.net/2008/06/15/a-trip-to-oare-in-june/comment-page-1/#comment-12094 Bob Telford Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:58:01 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/?p=2799#comment-12094 Gavin, You probably parked right outside my house!!! I live in the last house before the turning circle. I was at Faversham, working on ID. Geoff Gransden owns the Edith May, and her total re-build will be completed next year. He laid down the Barge-blocks specially for her. We are planning to clean out the dock, and level out the mud, soon, so that yachts can once again visit, and stay alongside. Dick Holness warns people off in his East Coast Pilot, but I have persuaded the Parish Council to take a more positive view. Of course Idle Duck will be moored off here when she returns. Bob Gavin,
You probably parked right outside my house!!! I live in the last house before the turning circle. I was at Faversham, working on ID.
Geoff Gransden owns the Edith May, and her total re-build will be completed next year. He laid down the Barge-blocks specially for her.
We are planning to clean out the dock, and level out the mud, soon, so that yachts can once again visit, and stay alongside. Dick Holness warns people off in his East Coast Pilot, but I have persuaded the Parish Council to take a more positive view.
Of course Idle Duck will be moored off here when she returns.
Bob

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