Comments on: Redmond’s Elver - is it related to Southwind? http://intheboatshed.net/2008/02/19/redmonds-elver-is-it-a-relative-of-chapelles-southwind/ Gavin Atkin's weblog about great boats, boatbuilding and restoration Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:56:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Gavin Atkin http://intheboatshed.net/2008/02/19/redmonds-elver-is-it-a-relative-of-chapelles-southwind/#comment-10772 Gavin Atkin Sun, 24 Feb 2008 21:55:09 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/2008/02/19/redmonds-elver-is-it-a-relative-of-chapelles-southwind/#comment-10772 I'm sure that was a momentary slip on Rich's part - and I missed it too! Gav I’m sure that was a momentary slip on Rich’s part - and I missed it too!

Gav

]]> By: Brian Smith http://intheboatshed.net/2008/02/19/redmonds-elver-is-it-a-relative-of-chapelles-southwind/#comment-10762 Brian Smith Fri, 22 Feb 2008 21:17:55 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/2008/02/19/redmonds-elver-is-it-a-relative-of-chapelles-southwind/#comment-10762 Hello, Gavin, I agree that Elver's design owes something to that of the Eel but the latter was designed by George Holmes, not Albert Strange. Eel's lines were published in Yachting Monthly before 1914, I think. Regards, Brian Smith Hello, Gavin,
I agree that Elver’s design owes something to that of the Eel but the latter was designed by George Holmes, not Albert Strange.
Eel’s lines were published in Yachting Monthly before 1914, I think.

Regards, Brian Smith

]]> By: Gavin Atkin http://intheboatshed.net/2008/02/19/redmonds-elver-is-it-a-relative-of-chapelles-southwind/#comment-10739 Gavin Atkin Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:22:18 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/2008/02/19/redmonds-elver-is-it-a-relative-of-chapelles-southwind/#comment-10739 Rich, who built the Elver Bivalve shown in the link above titled 'Photos and commentary', sent me these remarks: Gavin: I agree with you, there is no comparison between the two boats, and for the reasons you suggest. They are entirely different in every key sense. Another boat which is very different, but I nonetheless suspect was a great influence on the Elver rig, is the "Hampden boat", shown in plate 8 of Chappelle's "Boatbuilding". The rig, including sails and spars, is very similar, including many of the dmensions. But of course the main influence on the Elver is Albert Strange's Eel, the 18" canoe yawl, as Redmond has stated. And he continued to honor that influence in the name (Elver is a baby eel), and in the fact he called it a "yawl", when it is in fact a ketch (rudder is behind the mizzen, as opposed to in front, as in a yawl). And if you are interested, Gavin, here is my youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Z-rMKHyt0 I no longer have the boat. Rich SantaColoma Rich, who built the Elver Bivalve shown in the link above titled ‘Photos and commentary’, sent me these remarks:

Gavin: I agree with you, there is no comparison between the two
boats, and for the reasons you suggest. They are entirely different in every key sense.

Another boat which is very different, but I nonetheless suspect was
a great influence on the Elver rig, is the “Hampden boat”, shown in
plate 8 of Chappelle’s “Boatbuilding”. The rig, including sails and
spars, is very similar, including many of the dmensions.

But of course the main influence on the Elver is Albert Strange’s
Eel, the 18″ canoe yawl, as Redmond has stated. And he continued to honor that influence in the name (Elver is a baby eel), and in the
fact he called it a “yawl”, when it is in fact a ketch (rudder is
behind the mizzen, as opposed to in front, as in a yawl).

And if you are interested, Gavin, here is my youtube video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8Z-rMKHyt0

I no longer have the boat. Rich SantaColoma

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