Comments on: Phil Rhodes 45-foot centreboard yacht Undina cruising and racing on British TV http://intheboatshed.net/2008/01/03/phil-rhodes-45-foot-centreboard-yacht-undina-on-tv/ A weblog about great boats, boatbuilding and restoration. And sheds, of course! Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:28:52 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.1 By: Gavin Atkin http://intheboatshed.net/2008/01/03/phil-rhodes-45-foot-centreboard-yacht-undina-on-tv/#comment-9630 Gavin Atkin Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:38:55 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/2008/01/03/phil-rhodes-45-foot-centreboard-yacht-undina-on-tv/#comment-9630 I thought it might be yours - but after all our discussions on the issue I confessed I dismissed it as too good to be true! Gav I thought it might be yours - but after all our discussions on the issue I confessed I dismissed it as too good to be true!

Gav

]]> By: Steve Taylor http://intheboatshed.net/2008/01/03/phil-rhodes-45-foot-centreboard-yacht-undina-on-tv/#comment-9628 Steve Taylor Mon, 07 Jan 2008 12:05:42 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/2008/01/03/phil-rhodes-45-foot-centreboard-yacht-undina-on-tv/#comment-9628 I can entirely sympathise with G R-J's views on wooden boats - once you have owned one, you can't countenance plastic, however practical and economic this may be. Of course it was rather nice to see my own boat as the backdrop to the shot where Griff was discoursing on this point :-) I can entirely sympathise with G R-J’s views on wooden boats - once you have owned one, you can’t countenance plastic, however practical and economic this may be.

Of course it was rather nice to see my own boat as the backdrop to the shot where Griff was discoursing on this point :-)

]]> By: Gavin Atkin http://intheboatshed.net/2008/01/03/phil-rhodes-45-foot-centreboard-yacht-undina-on-tv/#comment-9486 Gavin Atkin Thu, 03 Jan 2008 13:37:30 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/2008/01/03/phil-rhodes-45-foot-centreboard-yacht-undina-on-tv/#comment-9486 Agreed, but I don't think I made the point you're arguing against. We sail a plastic 19-footer, and if we had to buy a wooden boat the cost and time involved would prevent us from sailing on the sea very much at all, so as you can see I'm no wooden boat snob. I'd also make the point that there are quite a lot of GRP boats on intheboatshed.net if you look around. From memory, recent examples include a Contessa, and a series on Proctor-designed boats. On the other side of the argument, what got me into creating this weblog was a long-standing interest in boat design, and then keeping a boat at Oare. The place is a favourite for people who keep old wooden craft, and I find the boats fascinating. Gavin Agreed, but I don’t think I made the point you’re arguing against.

We sail a plastic 19-footer, and if we had to buy a wooden boat the cost and time involved would prevent us from sailing on the sea very much at all, so as you can see I’m no wooden boat snob.

I’d also make the point that there are quite a lot of GRP boats on intheboatshed.net if you look around. From memory, recent examples include a Contessa, and a series on Proctor-designed boats.

On the other side of the argument, what got me into creating this weblog was a long-standing interest in boat design, and then keeping a boat at Oare. The place is a favourite for people who keep old wooden craft, and I find the boats fascinating.

Gavin

]]> By: Simon Padmore http://intheboatshed.net/2008/01/03/phil-rhodes-45-foot-centreboard-yacht-undina-on-tv/#comment-9483 Simon Padmore Thu, 03 Jan 2008 12:38:30 +0000 http://intheboatshed.net/2008/01/03/phil-rhodes-45-foot-centreboard-yacht-undina-on-tv/#comment-9483 I agree that the Yacht UNDINA is a beautiful craft and has had much love and attention lavished on her to bring her into the kind of condition that all boat owners would like to see but the reality of slim, sleek wooden sailing yachts is that mostly they are narrow, leaky and offering little accommodation, taking many hours of elbow grease to keep them in condition. For the every day family on an ordinary budget a yacht like UNDINA is unthinkable and as a result many wooden boats end up on the scrap heap. However there are many GRP yachts of a similar ilk to UNDINA that can be bought for about the same kind of money as a reasonable car offering sailing on a much more modest budget and far less in terms of elbow grease. Take a look at the Van Der Stadt Legend 29, The Nicholson 32 or 35, The Rival 32/34 and 36 to name but a few. Most of the above can be acquired in reasonable condition and will provide safe and exhilerating sailing for many years to come. In my view these are all classic yachts whith excellent pedigrees and owning one will provide the opportunity to sail to the far corners of the earth if you have the nerve to try. These and many others should be included in the list of classic yachts!! I agree that the Yacht UNDINA is a beautiful craft and has had much love and attention lavished on her to bring her into the kind of condition that all boat owners would like to see but the reality of slim, sleek wooden sailing yachts is that mostly they are narrow, leaky and offering little accommodation, taking many hours of elbow grease to keep them in condition. For the every day family on an ordinary budget a yacht like UNDINA is unthinkable and as a result many wooden boats end up on the scrap heap. However there are many GRP yachts of a similar ilk to UNDINA that can be bought for about the same kind of money as a reasonable car offering sailing on a much more modest budget and far less in terms of elbow grease. Take a look at the Van Der Stadt Legend 29, The Nicholson 32 or 35, The Rival 32/34 and 36 to name but a few. Most of the above can be acquired in reasonable condition and will provide safe and exhilerating sailing for many years to come. In my view these are all classic yachts whith excellent pedigrees and owning one will provide the opportunity to sail to the far corners of the earth if you have the nerve to try. These and many others should be included in the list of classic yachts!!

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